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Hello I have a question , Do vampyres or any other supernatural entity or being find peace after they pass ? Are the doomed to roam the earth for the rest of eternity ?
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Re: Do vampires find peace ?
Post on Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:52 am  Regis
I want to believe that it depends on what your definition of, "peace," is.
I'm not sure if they find, "peace," the same way humans do.

If you believe that peace is dying and going to heaven, then I do not know. I have never been part of a religion that believes in heaven, hell or an afterlife. My religion believes in reincarnation.
Seeing that the whole belief is centered around the soul, I imagine that vampirism, a condition that tampers with the soul, might have repercussions on my reincarnation if I chose to obtain it.
I'm not a vampyre though, so I can't say anything for sure. I'm just reading through this site and taking in all of the information on it before making any decisions.

Vampirism in and of itself, is not a natural phenomenon that all normal humans go through.
Once you turn, I imagine that its safe to say you aren't quite human anymore.

It might affect you after death. I'm not qualified or experianced enough to give you a good answer though.
I imagine that the Admin, Charm, Nightshade, or one of the other more experianced members can give you better info.

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Post on Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:12 am  Sebastian
Yes once you die, your soul is condemned for eternity to dwell the darkest corners of the earth all alone. honestly for some people it is the definition of peace, I know it sounds morbid but that depends upon the individual. of course you don't go to hell or heaven or get reincarnated.
Re: Do vampires find peace ?
Post on Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:48 am  PersistenceIsKey
Sebastian wrote:
Yes once you die, your soul is condemned for eternity to dwell the darkest corners of the earth all alone. honestly for some people it is the definition of peace, I know it sounds morbid but that depends upon the individual. of course you don't go to hell or heaven or get reincarnated.

No reincarnation whatsoever? I get that not getting into hell as you are under a different energy type, maybe?  Still, though, the nosferatu pact itself calls forth the gods themselves. Would you still be under the protection of the gods upon death but all alone and not like in hell? All souls reincarnate to my understanding. Hell is just a sanctuary where you'll be kept safe until reincarnation. Without reincarnation, you'd just wither away and die and all of that meditation would be for nothing. That doesn't make sense to me... Would you please care to elaborate on this?
Re: Do vampires find peace ?
Post on Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:19 am  Sebastian
notsoFE wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Yes once you die, your soul is condemned for eternity to dwell the darkest corners of the earth all alone. honestly for some people it is the definition of peace, I know it sounds morbid but that depends upon the individual. of course you don't go to hell or heaven or get reincarnated.

All souls reincarnate to my understanding. Hell is just a sanctuary where you'll be kept safe until reincarnation. Without reincarnation, you'd just wither away and die

No not all souls reincarnate. And even if you follow your own concept and use a little logic, you can what I'm trying to say. Alright in your sets of belief a place in the afterlife where souls are kept safe is called "Hell". But what if you never complete the journey to that place after death. Consider the connection between your soul and hell/heaven severed. You can't reincarnate if you don't make it to hell (or heaven or whatsoever a person call it as per their faith)


Last edited by Sebastian on Wed Mar 15, 2017 4:46 am; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Ambiguity with the word "Afterlife")
Re: Do vampires find peace ?
Post on Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:50 am  PersistenceIsKey
Sebastian wrote:
notsoFE wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Yes once you die, your soul is condemned for eternity to dwell the darkest corners of the earth all alone. honestly for some people it is the definition of peace, I know it sounds morbid but that depends upon the individual. of course you don't go to hell or heaven or get reincarnated.

All souls reincarnate to my understanding. Hell is just a sanctuary where you'll be kept safe until reincarnation. Without reincarnation, you'd just wither away and die

No not all souls reincarnate. And even if you follow your own concept and use a little logic, you can what I'm trying to say. Alright in your sets of belief a place in the afterlife where souls are kept safe is called "Hell". But what if you never complete the journey to that place after death. Consider the connection between your soul and the afterlife severed. You can't reincarnate if you don't make it to hell (or heaven or whatsoever a person call it as per their faith)


True, some souls choose not to reincarnate or it's not their time. ''Connection between soul and afterlife severed?'' What? Your soul is a part of the astral. You know this. Just as you know what I mean when I say ''Hell.'' Upon death, your soul (which is in the astral) is taken by the gods to hell, where you'll be kept protected until you choose to reincarnate. Again, you know this. Now I can see why you'd be in a different place as your energies are different, and since you'd dedicated your soul to the void, you'd be alone until you reincarnate.

Given by the information you've provided here on this web page and to me, it is very clear that you are fully and completely aware of these things. You've even hinted that you know the Admin personally, given that you know his age and some of his business, which means you know full well everything I wrote. You know the truth about Hell and the ''afterlife''

Why this charade? The most logical explanation I can think of is with this ''afterlife'' info you provided is to scare away people who take this as a kind of easy and joke. As if people think that they won't be at peace in their ''afterlife'' then they will not do the ritual. Meaning you only want people who would potentially put their entire life on the line. Which in turn means that this is some kind of test. those who take your word for it back off and those who choose to go on, go on and later learn the truth about it all.
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Post on Wed Mar 15, 2017 5:27 am  Sebastian
notsoFE wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
notsoFE wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
Yes once you die, your soul is condemned for eternity to dwell the darkest corners of the earth all alone. honestly for some people it is the definition of peace, I know it sounds morbid but that depends upon the individual. of course you don't go to hell or heaven or get reincarnated.

All souls reincarnate to my understanding. Hell is just a sanctuary where you'll be kept safe until reincarnation. Without reincarnation, you'd just wither away and die

No not all souls reincarnate. And even if you follow your own concept and use a little logic, you can what I'm trying to say. Alright in your sets of belief a place in the afterlife where souls are kept safe is called "Hell". But what if you never complete the journey to that place after death. Consider the connection between your soul and the afterlife severed. You can't reincarnate if you don't make it to hell (or heaven or whatsoever a person call it as per their faith)


True, some souls choose not to reincarnate or it's not their time. ''Connection between soul and afterlife severed?'' What? Your soul is a part of the astral. You know this. Just as you know what I mean when I say ''Hell.'' Upon death, your soul (which is in the astral) is taken by the gods to hell, where you'll be kept protected until you choose to reincarnate. Again, you know this. Now I can see why you'd be in a different place as your energies are different, and since you'd dedicated your soul to the void, you'd be alone until you reincarnate.

Given by the information you've provided here on this web page and to me, it is very clear that you are fully and completely aware of these things. You've even hinted that you know the Admin personally, given that you know his age and some of his business, which means you know full well everything I wrote. You know the truth about Hell and the ''afterlife''

Why this charade? The most logical explanation I can think of is with this ''afterlife'' info you provided is to scare away people who take this as a kind of easy and joke. As if people think that they won't be at peace in their ''afterlife'' then they will not do the ritual. Meaning you only want people who would potentially put their entire life on the line. Which in turn means that this is some kind of test. those who take your word for it back off and those who choose to go on, go on and later learn the truth about it all.

okay I'm well aware of all the information I've provided to you and yes I do understand the concept of soul and I also understand what you mean by Hell and reincarnation but that is all part of spiritual satanism. Tell that your soul is taken away to hell by gods when you die and you'll scare half the world's population away. No I'm not saying your religious concept or any of mine are false and no I'm not questioning the concepts of anybody else. But we all have different terms and understanding of what soul is made of and what happens to it when a physical body dies. In some concepts soul is made by subatomic particles called neutrinos, in some concepts soul is just a form of energy that resides within us and some concepts consider the human soul as a part of the divine where your considered to be a part of one god and upon your death you unite with the god to become a part of him. And of course apart from the existence of soul, there are also different concepts about what happens to the soul after the physical death. Some concepts don't believe in the concept of "afterlife" at all, some call it heaven, some call it hell, some say you immediately reincarnate into another form. Some concepts say that our soul is individual and our conscious remains intact even when our soul leaves our body and in some concepts soul is an absolute form where it's just a part of the divine.
But how our religious views affect our believes, the same is not true about vampirism. Vampirism has nothing to do with the religion. It does not follow Christianity, Islam, Judaism or any other religion. Yes spiritual satanism can be connected to vampirism in a lot of ways but vampirism is not entirely about satanism. Even the concepts of spiritual satanism are incomplete and still needs a lot of revelations but again vampirism is not limited to that. So when we say that upon our death our soul is taken away by the gods to hell, well that might sound unacceptable to some people because that is s statement which tries to RELATE VAMPIRISM AND RELIGION.
all the discussions we've had, have been about spirituality and about strengthening our soul, but I've tried my best to avoid linking the spirituality with any religion. Now when I said the connection between soul and afterlife, what I actually meant is that the connection between hell/heaven. Maybe I created some sort of misunderstanding with the ambiguity of my language, I apologize for that. But even if let's say that upon your death your soul is taken away by the Demons to the realm of hell where you are kept safe. But what about those who are not dedicated Satanist, do you think their souls are also escorted by the Demons to hell? and what if something happens and the demons deny taking you anywhere? (just an conditional probability) Would you still make it to hell on your own? Again that would be a question of the religion.

This topic is quite old actually and we've already had such discussions in the past and I just wanted to cut things short because the details about all these questions can be easily found on this website. So when I say that a vampire's soul is damned, I meant that your soul is doomed to roam upon the earth for eternity.

Now again this is a GENERAL STATEMENT. This definition of damnation does not try to relate to any religious concept of hell and heaven because that would be debatable. So I expect half of the world's population would get this statement and comprehend it accordingly as per their sets of belief. But if your religious concepts of satanism are somehow contradictory, then it would be your sets of belief.

Here is a link to an article posted by Jake a long time ago on a similar discussion:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Do let me know if you still feel perplexed with the explanation.
Re: Do vampires find peace ?
Post on Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:52 am  PersistenceIsKey
Sebastian wrote:
okay I'm well aware of all the information I've provided to you and yes I do understand the concept of soul and I also understand what you mean by Hell and reincarnation but that is all part of spiritual satanism. Tell that your soul is taken away to hell by gods when you die and you'll scare half the world's population away. No I'm not saying your religious concept or any of mine are false and no I'm not questioning the concepts of anybody else. But we all have different terms and understanding of what soul is made of and what happens to it when a physical body dies. In some concepts soul is made by subatomic particles called neutrinos, in some concepts soul is just a form of energy that resides within us and some concepts consider the human soul as a part of the divine where your considered to be a part of one god and upon your death you unite with the god to become a part of him. And of course apart from the existence of soul, there are also different concepts about what happens to the soul after the physical death. Some concepts don't believe in the concept of "afterlife" at all, some call it heaven, some call it hell, some say you immediately reincarnate into another form. Some concepts say that our soul is individual and our conscious remains intact even when our soul leaves our body and in some concepts soul is an absolute form where it's just a part of the divine.
But how our religious views affect our believes, the same is not true about vampirism. Vampirism has nothing to do with the religion. It does not follow Christianity, Islam, Judaism or any other religion. Yes spiritual satanism can be connected to vampirism in a lot of ways but vampirism is not entirely about satanism. Even the concepts of spiritual satanism are incomplete and still needs a lot of revelations but again vampirism is not limited to that. So when we say that upon our death our soul is taken away by the gods to hell, well that might sound unacceptable to some people because that is s statement which tries to RELATE VAMPIRISM AND RELIGION.
all the discussions we've had, have been about spirituality and about strengthening our soul, but I've tried my best to avoid linking the spirituality with any religion. Now when I said the connection between soul and afterlife, what I actually meant is that the connection between hell/heaven. Maybe I created some sort of misunderstanding with the ambiguity of my language, I apologize for that. But even if let's say that upon your death your soul is taken away by the Demons to the realm of hell where you are kept safe. But what about those who are not dedicated Satanist, do you think their souls are also escorted by the Demons to hell? and what if something happens and the demons deny taking you anywhere? (just an conditional probability) Would you still make it to hell on your own? Again that would be a question of the religion.

This topic is quite old actually and we've already had such discussions in the past and I just wanted to cut things short because the details about all these questions can be easily found on this website. So when I say that a vampire's soul is damned, I meant that your soul is doomed to roam upon the earth for eternity.

Now again this is a GENERAL STATEMENT. This definition of damnation does not try to relate to any religious concept of hell and heaven because that would be debatable. So I expect half of the world's population would get this statement and comprehend it accordingly as per their sets of belief. But if your religious concepts of satanism are somehow contradictory, then it would be your sets of belief.

Here is a link to an article posted by Jake a long time ago on a similar discussion:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Do let me know if you still feel perplexed with the explanation.

Yes, thank you. This explained a lot. I also think I might have just made a huge realization.

Connection between you soul and the Afterlife... afterlife which is an enemy concept. Which is not connected to satanism in any way. Meaning that literally, upon the completion of the nosferatu pact, the connection between your soul and the afterlife (NOT Satanism) is severed... Just like you sever the ties to abrahamic religion upon dedication to Satan. That was in front of me the entire time... How did I not see that? I guess everything at its own time. I reckon that's what you meant in your original post. Man, I love these little click moments that happen every once in a while.

My question to those not dedicated and succeed in the nosferatu pact is: ''How did you have enough juice to even pull through?'' That means that one has a powerful soul, which in turn means that in a previous life, they meditated and raised the power of their soul. I'd wager that they'd just be at the mercy of more powerful being, if not by then - their death - they would have amassed enough power to protect themselves. But still, even in the pact itself you call upon Satan. ''By the power of Satan.'' As I understand it, vampirism is in it's own ''realm'' of sorts. An independent ''power supply'' with origins in spiritual satanism. Satanism is the stem and root of the tree and vampirism is one part of the branches. There are other parts or ''branches'' as well which grow out. Though the root is in Satanism. This is my current understanding of it.

I completely understand your efforts to detach vampirism from any religion as that may scare away potential turnings. I also understand the concept of damnation you gave completely.  Just meaning that you will be in your current body for all of eternity and not some torture of suffering stuff...

Thanks again for the explanation.
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Post on Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:33 am  Sebastian
notsoFE wrote:
Sebastian wrote:
okay I'm well aware of all the information I've provided to you and yes I do understand the concept of soul and I also understand what you mean by Hell and reincarnation but that is all part of spiritual satanism. Tell that your soul is taken away to hell by gods when you die and you'll scare half the world's population away. No I'm not saying your religious concept or any of mine are false and no I'm not questioning the concepts of anybody else. But we all have different terms and understanding of what soul is made of and what happens to it when a physical body dies. In some concepts soul is made by subatomic particles called neutrinos, in some concepts soul is just a form of energy that resides within us and some concepts consider the human soul as a part of the divine where your considered to be a part of one god and upon your death you unite with the god to become a part of him. And of course apart from the existence of soul, there are also different concepts about what happens to the soul after the physical death. Some concepts don't believe in the concept of "afterlife" at all, some call it heaven, some call it hell, some say you immediately reincarnate into another form. Some concepts say that our soul is individual and our conscious remains intact even when our soul leaves our body and in some concepts soul is an absolute form where it's just a part of the divine.
But how our religious views affect our believes, the same is not true about vampirism. Vampirism has nothing to do with the religion. It does not follow Christianity, Islam, Judaism or any other religion. Yes spiritual satanism can be connected to vampirism in a lot of ways but vampirism is not entirely about satanism. Even the concepts of spiritual satanism are incomplete and still needs a lot of revelations but again vampirism is not limited to that. So when we say that upon our death our soul is taken away by the gods to hell, well that might sound unacceptable to some people because that is s statement which tries to RELATE VAMPIRISM AND RELIGION.
all the discussions we've had, have been about spirituality and about strengthening our soul, but I've tried my best to avoid linking the spirituality with any religion. Now when I said the connection between soul and afterlife, what I actually meant is that the connection between hell/heaven. Maybe I created some sort of misunderstanding with the ambiguity of my language, I apologize for that. But even if let's say that upon your death your soul is taken away by the Demons to the realm of hell where you are kept safe. But what about those who are not dedicated Satanist, do you think their souls are also escorted by the Demons to hell? and what if something happens and the demons deny taking you anywhere? (just an conditional probability) Would you still make it to hell on your own? Again that would be a question of the religion.

This topic is quite old actually and we've already had such discussions in the past and I just wanted to cut things short because the details about all these questions can be easily found on this website. So when I say that a vampire's soul is damned, I meant that your soul is doomed to roam upon the earth for eternity.

Now again this is a GENERAL STATEMENT. This definition of damnation does not try to relate to any religious concept of hell and heaven because that would be debatable. So I expect half of the world's population would get this statement and comprehend it accordingly as per their sets of belief. But if your religious concepts of satanism are somehow contradictory, then it would be your sets of belief.

Here is a link to an article posted by Jake a long time ago on a similar discussion:
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Do let me know if you still feel perplexed with the explanation.

Yes, thank you. This explained a lot. I also think I might have just made a huge realization.

Connection between you soul and the Afterlife... afterlife which is an enemy concept. Which is not connected to satanism in any way. Meaning that literally, upon the completion of the nosferatu pact, the connection between your soul and the afterlife (NOT Satanism) is severed... Just like you sever the ties to abrahamic religion upon dedication to Satan. That was in front of me the entire time... How did I not see that? I guess everything at its own time. I reckon that's what you meant in your original post. Man, I love these little click moments that happen every once in a while.

My question to those not dedicated and succeed in the nosferatu pact is: ''How did you have enough juice to even pull through?'' That means that one has a powerful soul, which in turn means that in a previous life, they meditated and raised the power of their soul. I'd wager that they'd just be at the mercy of more powerful being, if not by then - their death - they would have amassed enough power to protect themselves. But still, even in the pact itself you call upon Satan. ''By the power of Satan.'' As I understand it, vampirism is in it's own ''realm'' of sorts. An independent ''power supply'' with origins in spiritual satanism. Satanism is the stem and root of the tree and vampirism is one part of the branches. There are other parts or ''branches'' as well which grow out. Though the root is in Satanism. This is my current understanding of it.

I completely understand your efforts to detach vampirism from any religion as that may scare away potential turnings.  I also understand the concept of damnation you gave completely.  Just meaning that you will be in your current body for all of eternity and not some torture of suffering stuff...

Thanks again for the explanation.

Glad to help. Feel free to browse the website in deeper sections. Most of the complicated topics about vampirism have already been discussed before. I'm sure you will be amazed with the knowledge.
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A long time has passed. Ive been an active member since 2015, and ive read all the topics in the forums about VAMPIRES and even WEREWOLVES! I even witnessed WHITEDEMON won the contest but nothing was rewarded to him. Please dont give us doubts. WE ARE ALL BELIEVERS AND HOPING THAT SOMEDAY WE COULD LIVE THE "DREAM".

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Re: Do vampires find peace ?
Post on Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:47 am  Sadhna Sharma*
Can anyone tell me that.. It is necessary to drink blood everyday? If yes than what happens when vampires don't drink blood on daily basis :/
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Re: Do vampires find peace ?
Post on Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:20 am  Admin
Sadhna Sharma* wrote:
Can anyone tell me that.. It is necessary to drink blood everyday? If yes than what happens when vampires don't drink blood on daily basis :/
Just like any being on earth common sense the more you feed the healthier and stronger you are.
Blood consumption on daily basis is a top recommendation to maintain strength and power you just don't want to fast for a long time without blood and eventually not be able to have the strength and find yourself a blood supply.. so basically if you don't drink on the daily bases you get weaker
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